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Cost=1W, Vps=0, Prereq=2 Occupations Any 2x2 Unused farmyard space, where 1 of the spaces is orthogonally adjacent to your home, provides room for 1 person. (Once one of the spaces becomes used, move the Family member back to your supply or your home if you have room.) [View playtest games] [View all dealt games] |
Backyard (minor)Oct 29, 2010 11:24am [quote] (Edit: Nov 1, 2010 7:48pm) |
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Hinterhof: 2x2 ungenutzte Hoffelder, von denen 1 Hoffeld an einen deiner Raume grenzen muss, bieten dir Platz fur 1 Person. (Sobald du eines dieser Hoffelder bebaust, musst du den dort untergebrachten Personenstein zuruck in deinen Vorrat nehmen. Es sei denn, du bietest ihm Platz in der Wohnstatte.) |
Oct 29, 2010 11:24am [quote] (Edit: Oct 29, 2010 12:53pm) |
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"that borders on your home" is ambigious. It could mean that this is necessary: (H)ome (B)ackyard (E)mpty E E E H B B H B B The german text says that only 1 of the farmyard spaces needs to border your home. So this is allowed: E B B H B B H E E "Improving" a space is no Agricola term. Dont know a good wording right now but this one is not good. |
Oct 31, 2010 6:01am [quote] |
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Allows you to be 1 extra room ahead of what you've paid for. Very powerful. Isn't this WHE all over again? Getting 2 occs out before 1st family growth is no barrier. |
IF you have room? And if you don't? Family Member goes away? Can't add into the unused space? Major errata needed.Nov 1, 2010 11:39pm [quote] (Edit: Nov 2, 2010 12:32am) |
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And since theres the WHE question again (dont worry, your not the only one) i repeat it again: Not every card that provides 1 extra room should be banned like WHE. WHE is banned because it effectively creates 3 extra rooms for other players if you sit before the guy who drafted it. |
It says that the Family member goes back to your supply. Or it goes to your home, but only if you have room.Nov 2, 2010 10:30am [quote] |
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Initial Impressions: Interesting card. I think Uwe must have thought that keeping the 2 empty spaces (-2) would balance out the peep (+3) if the peep is kept the whole time. What it does allow you to do is build a room around a peep, not build then addd a peep, which is pretty interesting and cool. | Nov 4, 2010 12:03am [quote] |
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BT, what 2 empty spaces are you talking about, doesn't this card require 4 empty spaces? 2x2? | Nov 4, 2010 11:50am [quote] |
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Nov 12, 2010 4:08am [quote] |
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Also you can use early wood for fences since you have no need to build room. The -4 pts at end of game (for unused spaces) is not enough of a balance in my opinion. |
This card is really too powerful - it's cheaper than remodeling and WHE, but it's effects are the same. Play on SP to get first fg.Nov 26, 2011 9:29pm [quote] |
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Do we free a space on the board when he already made an action? |
When do we move this person to the supply? Immediately? Should we keep track which person is it?Apr 19, 2012 10:47am [quote] |
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