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[View] 		G3occ-3Fencing MasterWhenever you play an Occupation (including this one), place up to 2 fences from your supply on this card. From your 4th Occupation on, place up to 1 fence instead. You build these fences for free when taking a "Fences" Action.0inoshishi[32 Comments]
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2014-10-16 04:32:00
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Fencing Master (occ-3+)
Whenever you play an Occupation (including this one), place up to 2 fences from your supply on this card. From your 4th Occupation on, place up to 1 fence instead. You build these fences for free when taking a "Fences" Action.

[View playtest games] [View all dealt games]		 .inoshishi
Jun 24, 2011 10:22am
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(Edit: Oct 16, 2014 4:32am)
Alternate is to pay 1 food to play an occupation, buy how often in a game do you fence, and why not fence all at once and take the normal occ spot? Though this does combo strongly with Fence Overseer. inoshishi
Jun 24, 2011 10:24am
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Hmm. As is, this will give 6 free Food and uncontested Occ playing.

Maybe "Whenever you fence 2 new farmyard spaces...."

This card is an always play. Since you will fence anyway, this card always gives the occ playing action back.		 chris
Jun 24, 2011 11:38am
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(Edit: Jun 24, 2011 11:39am)
I updated it to pay 1 Food, and only when you build 4 fences. I also reset the votes.

If you were only planning on fencing once per game, this card is completely worthless. Why not simply play the occupation that you'd get as a result of the card earlier? This card is only useful if you fence early and often.

As I mentioned above, I think the 1 Food cost kind of defeats the purpose of this card, but we'll see how everyone else feels.		 inoshishi
Jun 24, 2011 3:57pm
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i say make the minimum 3 fences... it is a sweet spot where u can add 1 pasture for 3 fences. armyguy
Jun 24, 2011 6:10pm
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Since I added the 1 food cost, I've no issue making this 3 fences.

Remember, you could simply play occs 1 by 1 using the regular occ space (albeit if available) and then fence all at once for the same amount of actions as playing this card and fencing little by little to play occs. So I don't think this is overpowered. And it's a real nice combo with mini-pasture.		 inoshishi
Jun 25, 2011 4:14am
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you have to use this twice to get a benefit. doesn't look usable outside combos (just a thought). letsdance
Jun 27, 2011 5:34am
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Quote from: letsdance on Jun 27, 2011 5:34am
you have to use this twice to get a benefit. doesn't look usable outside combos (just a thought).

I agree with you to an extent. The goal here, however, is that this will encourage early fencing. You can fence a 1x1, play an occupation, and then you have a private 1f occ space when building 3 more fences. And you can hold early animals, which is rare in normal games.		 inoshishi
Jun 27, 2011 8:50pm
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Update (and vote reset):

Old - Play an occ for 1 food whenever you build at least 3 fences
New - Build 3 fences for 1 wood whenever you play an occ.

I made this guy backwards. Considered making you pay full price for the fences, but figured that'd be super weak. Now he can save you some nice wood costs on fences, but only if you fence a pasture first before playing him.		 inoshishi
Jun 29, 2011 8:29pm
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i think it's too strong now. it's also not really backwards, because then you would have to pay 3w for 3 fences - that would probably be o.k. i think you should just say "take a fence action". you will often not be able to legally place 3 fences and just refering to the fence action makes it clear that all combos trigger. letsdance
Jun 30, 2011 4:26am
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