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[View] 		G3minorVegetable HarvestIf you have an Oven, you can convert Vegetables into Food at any time. Take 4 Food for each Vegetable.0electrokinetic[42 Comments]
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2014-11-06 21:21:42
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Vegetable Harvest (minor)
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If you have an Oven, you can convert Vegetables into Food at any time. Take 4 Food for each Vegetable.

[View playtest games] [View all dealt games]		 .electrokinetic
Aug 14, 2011 4:30pm
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(Edit: Oct 15, 2014 10:00pm)
Any card that makes the vegetarian route better is good for the game, I think. I like it. dshin
Aug 14, 2011 6:49pm
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shouldn't it be a Pumpkin Bread Tray or something similar to help you cook the veggie. also, it seems like you'd need a baking action to bake the pumpkin bread. perhaps giving 4 or 5f but having to bake it fits the theme of the card better. hunter
Aug 15, 2011 10:16am
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dshin: amen!

hunter: Thank you for the input. I see your point, but what I was trying to do here was to create a vegetable analog to the Meat Seller. I think veggies are hard enough to come by to then have to limit them further with a bake action requirement. I'd rather increase the cost of the card if necessary. As far as the name goes, I called it Pumpkin Bread to bring up the idea of using an oven to cook the veggies instead of a hearth, but other names I thought of were Baked Eggplant, Toorli (a middle-eastern dish that's literally baked veggies), Veggie Casserole, and Stuffed Peppers. I ended up going with Pumpkin Bread mainly because the vegiemeeples my group plays with look like pumpkins!		 electrokinetic
Aug 16, 2011 12:03am
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I really like this card, but I have the same issue as hunter with the name. I think it should follow one of 2 paths:
1) Keep name Pumpkin Bread, change the text to whenever you bake bread, you may convert one vegetable to 4 or 5 food.
2) Keep card text the same and change the name. Ideally, the name should describe something that can be used without using the oven, but is more frequently used when you have an oven. Some ideas for a name: Vegetable Stand, Pumpkin Stand, Vegetarian Cookbook, Condiments, Bread and Salad, Vegetable Spread.		 slim
Aug 16, 2011 1:31am
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I like the current name and text. Forcing you to bake for that would weaken the card, whose usefulness is limited anyway. Generally immediately after a baking action you don't need more food. What you need is to have food without having to bake bread. hala
Aug 17, 2011 4:43am
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not to be redundant, but this card is a minor improvement that lets you use an oven to turn vegetables into food. if you are going to use a pumpkin bread theme (which is just fine), you would be describing something that allows you to make the pumpkin bread. the pumpkin bread itself is the food you get from the veggie. so a pumpkin bread recipe, pumpkin bread tray, pumpkin bread pan, ect. plain "pumpkin bread" as a name does not fit the card you made.

the analog i would make to existing cards is milking stool. the card is not called milk, b/c the milk is the food that you get. the card is the tool that makes it so you can collect the milk, the milking stool. similar with butter churn. it is not called butter.

for the record, i do like this card. please take these comment as my opinion and constructively, not harshly. 		hunter
Aug 17, 2011 10:46pm
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Hunter, you have persuaded me. Looking through the decks, I couldn't find a counterexample to what you said. Then it just took a while to decide on what exactly to call it. I bake vegetables in a pyrex but I doubt they had that back in the 1600's so I'm going with stoneware. electrokinetic
Aug 21, 2011 10:17pm
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You couldn't find counterexamples? What about Helpful Neighbours? Is that really an improvement? What about Field? Building Material? Guest? Meat and Pumpkin Pie? Horse? House Goat? Sleeping Corner? Bountiful Harvest? What I want to say is that when the name that better fits the theme is not necessarily that of an actual improvement, you should go for that instead, as it has been done before - certainly there are more examples than what I mentioned here. The name that suits this card the best is Pumpkin bread. hala
Aug 22, 2011 2:00am
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i like the mechanics as they are. letsdance
Aug 22, 2011 5:18am
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