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[View] 		G2occ-3EngineerWhenever you play an Improvement, you receive 1 Food before paying the costs of the Improvement. If the Improvement has a printed Stone cost, you receive 2 Food instead of 1.0colby[56 Comments]
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2011-09-04 04:06:08
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Engineer (occ-3+)
Whenever you play an Improvement, you receive 1 Food before paying the costs of the Improvement. If the Improvement has a printed Stone cost, you receive 2 Food instead of 1.

[View playtest games] [View all dealt games]		 .colby
Aug 24, 2010 2:48pm
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Just a wording thing: right now it's not clear that you get a food every time you play an improvement. Could be "Whenever you play an improvement, you receive one food before paying the costs of the improvement." tacticus
Aug 24, 2010 3:43pm
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simple and novel. i like it. glengarry
Aug 24, 2010 5:05pm
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my impression is that on average people play more improvements than occupations,
but that doesn't mean this is stronger than Patron, since "Play 1 Occupation" is a strong action.		 jingking
Aug 24, 2010 6:11pm
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Quote from: jingking on Aug 24, 2010 6:11pm
my impression is that on average people play more improvements than occupations,
but that doesn't mean this is stronger than Patron, since "Play 1 Occupation" is a strong action.


i don't think so. occs are generally stronger than improvements (minors at least) and patron gives 2f, not 1. but i agree you general you play more improvements than occs. i think this is closer in strength to foreman.		 hunter
Aug 24, 2010 9:10pm
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Quote from: tacticus on Aug 24, 2010 3:43pm
Just a wording thing: right now it's not clear that you get a food every time you play an improvement. Could be "Whenever you play an improvement, you receive one food before paying the costs of the improvement."


Sorry, I don't get your point. Could you have an example where the current wording will be confusing?		 colby
Aug 25, 2010 4:25pm
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Quote from: colby on Aug 25, 2010 4:25pm

Sorry, I don't get your point. Could you have an example where the current wording will be confusing?


I've just played Engineer. I play "an improvement" and receive 1 food. I play another improvement, and reach for the food: my opponent smacks my hand, and points out that the card only references one improvement.

In other words, I think you need "whenever." I know it's nit-picky, but it's also pretty standard Agricola language. I basically copied the format of the Bookshelf exactly.		 tacticus
Aug 25, 2010 4:32pm
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Gotcha. I changed the text. Thanks, tacticus. By the way, whenever I used a photo outside of the database here, the whole card doesn't show up. Does anyone know what the problem might be? colby
Aug 25, 2010 4:39pm
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I think the card is weak. Unless you have Braggart, how many improvements would one play during a game? Around 6 I'd say. Early occupation for 6 food is a bad investment. Maybe, I don't know, 2f whenever you buy a major improvement (or an upgrade to a major) and 1f whenever you play a minor. As for the name, it's not good for that time period. hala
Sep 29, 2010 1:14am
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I think it should be 1f for a Minor and 2f for a Major. I like the card, even if it's on the weaker side. Not every card has to be a powerhouse and not every card has to be of equal power.

I think Engineer is an ok name, but something like Village Planner or Master Craftsman would be better.		 btizo
Sep 29, 2010 3:43pm
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