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[View] 		J2occ-1CluttererDuring scoring, you get 1 bonus point for each card played after this one that has "accumulation space(s)" in its text.0uwe
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During scoring, you get 1 bonus point for each card played after this one that has "accumulation space(s)" in its text.

[View playtest games] [View all dealt games]		 .uwe
May 11, 2016 2:05am
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(Edit: Nov 18, 2018 4:18pm)
I love it!
(possibly quite strong)		 nwoll
Aug 18, 2016 1:54pm
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35 cards in J2 with Accumulation Space in text out of 159 = 22% erpelboer
Oct 26, 2017 9:54am
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Does this card count for it? ken
Jan 21, 2018 5:16am
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UPDATE

old: During scoring, you get 1 bonus point for each card in front of you having "accumulation space" in its text.

new: During scoring, you get 1 bonus point for each card played after this one that has "accumulation space(s)" in its text.		 chris
Nov 18, 2018 4:18pm
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As worded, this card can be interpreted to mean you get 1 bonus point for each such card played by any player. Without "in front of you," the card is much more ambiguous. I just saw a player interpret it this way, and we couldn't say that the wording didn't allow it. unknown98111133
Jan 27, 2019 5:37am
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Quote from: unknown98111133 on Jan 27, 2019 5:37am
As worded, this card can be interpreted to mean you get 1 bonus point for each such card played by any player. Without "in front of you," the card is much more ambiguous. I just saw a player interpret it this way, and we couldn't say that the wording didn't allow it.


This was my comment. I didn't realize I wasn't logged in. Sorry!		 montu
Jan 27, 2019 5:38am
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I posted the question above to BGG, where a helpful user found this in the AG2 rules appendix:

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If a card refers to a game component, it usually means one of yours (in your hand or supply, on your farmyard board, or otherwise in front of you). If it means the components of all players or only those of other players (like their people in particular), it explicitly says so.
 lumin
Jan 27, 2019 9:04am
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I still think this counts "each card".
Look at the old wording. "In front of you" was removed for a reason.
For example, these two cards specifically still say "in front of you" -



The natural reading would indicate it counts all cards played by all players. Additionally, the strength seems very weak otherwise.		 nwoll
Jan 27, 2019 5:50pm
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Quote from: nwoll on Jan 27, 2019 5:50pm
I still think this counts "each card".
Look at the old wording. "In front of you" was removed for a reason.
For example, these two cards specifically still say "in front of you"


I am hoping and expecting the reason to be forgetfulness/editor mistake, which has happened a few times before.

Quote from: nwoll on Jan 27, 2019 5:50pm

Additionally, the strength seems very weak otherwise.


Disagree on this - should have PWR similar to Mastermind otherwise, and the liberal reading makes it much better than Braggart2, a card which you are arguing to ban based on PWR (I am on your team on that one.) Pain got 9VP from it in a game without very many "accumulation space" cards in the draft.		 lumin
Jan 27, 2019 8:43pm
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