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J2-occ-1Wishless PersonEach time you get an "Improvement" action excluding from the "Starting Player" action space, you can decline it. If you do, you can immediately place another person on an occupied (excluding "Starting Player" action space) or unoccupied action space.0uwe
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2018-02-19 21:56:13
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Wishless Person (occ-1+)
Each time you get an "Improvement" action excluding from the "Starting Player" action space, you can decline it. If you do, you can immediately place another person on an occupied (excluding "Starting Player" action space) or unoccupied action space.

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.uwe
Oct 18, 2017 5:44pm
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(Edit: Feb 19, 2018 9:55pm)
Much too strong especially if minor improvements are part of the deal. Also needs a "can't take SP space" caveat. Makes too many rounds very strong for the player; i.e. using FG with room multiple times as if you have Back Door, chaining like SP -] Reno -] PlowSow... lumin
Oct 26, 2017 10:15pm
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added: excluding SP action space, (on which space you can decline the improvement action)
chris
Oct 31, 2017 3:06pm
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Does this combine with Field Merchant which also gives something if you decline an "Improvement" action? Here is [Field Merchant]. chris
Dec 28, 2017 2:16pm
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It looks to me like you can stack the effects that trigger when declining an improvement action, so Wishless Person and Field Merchant would combo.

Regarding Lumin's statement, no card, including this one, should allow sp to be taken away from someone who took it that round. Is that rule part of the official rules, or does the text need to be added to every card that allows taking an occupied action space?
unknown19347165
Feb 11, 2018 11:18am
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I think the new AG2 rules disallow anyone using the SP action space a 2nd time in one round. However, to make sure there is no confusion, I'll add it to the text.

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added: excluding SP action space, on the new space you use
chris
Feb 13, 2018 4:30pm
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Quote from: unknown19347165 on Feb 11, 2018 11:18am
It looks to me like you can stack the effects that trigger when declining an improvement action, so Wishless Person and Field Merchant would combo.

Regarding Lumin's statement, no card, including this one, should allow sp to be taken away from someone who took it that round. Is that rule part of the official rules, or does the text need to be added to every card that allows taking an occupied action space?


I was the unknown, btw.

Quote from: chris on Feb 13, 2018 4:30pm
I think the new AG2 rules disallow anyone using the SP action space a 2nd time in one round. However, to make sure there is no confusion, I'll add it to the text.

UPDATE

added: excluding SP action space, on the new space you use


This isn't a good fix Chris, because now the second person cannot take an unoccupied SP action, which should be allowed. If it is in the rules, and it should be, then text shouldn't be added to the card, it just makes things confusing, and leads people to make arguments based on why the text was added.
maninteitz
Feb 19, 2018 8:00am
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Good point Maninteitz. I put "excluding SP" with "occupied" but not "unoccupied". Also I put the text in parenthesis to indicate that it's a reminder about the already existing rules.
chris
Feb 19, 2018 9:56pm
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