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J4minorChangeoverAt any time, if a field has exactly 1 good in it, you can discard that good and immediately take a "Sow" action limited to that field. 0uwe
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2021-01-29 22:33:39
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At any time, if a field has exactly 1 good in it, you can discard that good and immediately take a "Sow" action limited to that field.

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.uwe
Feb 1, 2020 5:38pm
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I feel like there's an infinite combo here, but I can't find it. Still, shouldn't say "any time". nwoll
Feb 2, 2020 6:59pm
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Quote from: nwoll on Feb 2, 2020 6:59pm
I feel like there's an infinite combo here, but I can't find it. Still, shouldn't say "any time".

Agree with this whole comment. I'll start thinking about where that infinite combo is.
lumin
Feb 2, 2020 7:19pm
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Gleaner + Rotten Plow. Have 1v on it, harvest that, get a resource from gleaner, then sow again with rotten plow, rinse, repeat. Also the G deck card that let's you move resources on fields around should work with this too. wsefranc
Feb 3, 2020 8:35am
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Well, Gleaner would not quite work, as you are "discarding" the last good, and Gleaner requires a "Harvest" of the last good.
Still agree with comments that there is probably an infinite combo somewhere. Would have to be a "Whenever you sow" card with rotten plow.
sandswoll
Feb 3, 2020 1:36pm
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There definitely is one using Rotten Plow. I was just trying to find one using the cards this will be played with.

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Have 2 empty fields, 1 stable, 1 vegetable. After r11.

Sow Veg in 1 empty field, get +f, +c +s, get +v, move 1 of sown to other empty field, discard both, get sow action, start over. Unlimited food, clay, and stone.
nwoll
Feb 3, 2020 3:06pm
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(Edit: Feb 3, 2020 3:09pm)
nwoll, the Changeover sow is clearly conditional so it can't be affected by Garden Hoe, Seaweed Fertilizer, A-Seed Pellets, or anything else requiring an unconditional sow.

I believe there are actually no infinite combos currently based on this card when restricting to AG2 only. It will make it harder for future cards to avoid infinite combos if "at any time" stays so I agree that it should be restricted.
lumin
Feb 3, 2020 7:56pm
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(Edit: Feb 3, 2020 7:59pm)
I would change it from "exactly" to "at least", then you can get unplanted fields easier for endgame scoring of some cards, and then also it would have a nice synergy with Wood Field. firnefex
Nov 11, 2020 6:24pm
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printed card says (translated by me from german):

"Whenever a field has, as a result of a harvest, exactly 1 good on it, you can discard that good at any time and immediately take a "Sow" action limited to that field."

So its limited to Harvests. But the "discard a good" part got a weird "at any time" attached to it??
luki
Jan 29, 2021 10:33pm
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